Economics of motorcycles and alphaness

I think buying a bike is one of the fastest and cheapest ways for a man to increase his value in the SMP. I have l already covered why motorcycles-are-alpha.Now I want to break down the cost of ownership and use a friend as an example of possible returns.

I have this friend we’ll call RJ. He was my boss once, down range. Now, beside being short (5’7″) and a little shy around girls, he is generally what women say they want in a man. He is a good man,and good at being a man. Well liked and respected by superiors, subordinates and peers. Professionally or personally, you only hear good shit about the dude. He is a mans man, and a soldiers’ soldier. A real professional. One of those guys who is pretty damn good at everything, if not particularity excellent at anyone thing. He has a decent singing voice, and is good enough with a guitar no one tells him to stop when we’re sitting around a camp fire. He is a funny dude, handles his booze like a boss, often the life of the (smallish) party in that salty career military sort of way. RJ is smarter then average, fun to be with, a good conservationist with a broad based depth of knowledge in a shit ton of areas. He has a bachelor degree, and decent cooking skills. RJ has a daughter and extend family that adores him, he is strong and fit, working out up to three times a day when he can. He is qualified  to instruct the the Army combative instructors plus sports a few tattoos. He is a 26 year light infantry vet, mostly in the 82nd. No SpecOps time or anything like that, but he spent two years as a drill sergeant, and won some army wide award while on the trail. He also won the Sergeant Audie Murphy Award and a silver star when he was an E6 for laying down some seriously effective crew served weapon fire while his platoon pulled their shit together from a string of IED’s. Army reckons he kept them from being overran. During his career he earned a Ranger tab, became a Jump Master, jumped into combat during the Just Cause invasion, invaded Iraq in 1990, spent some time in Somalia, plus 3 years in Iraq and two in Afghanistan during the global war on terror. He has lived in Panama and Italy, handy around the house, can do minor repairs on his truck, does a little hunting and fishing and apparently dances well.

And you guessed it, he struggles in the SMP. Got a few dates, bangs a few chicks a year but he has to work on it and mostly pulls 5’s and 6’s after a shit ton of work. He maybe pulls one 7 a year. He beta’ed out during his marriage and is divorced. The typical advice for him to alpha up doesn’t apply. He stands correctly, isn’t a push over or any of that, he reads like a machine, is fit and rugged, if not overly attractive in the face. His biggest problem is…. trying to date in an Army town. Being fit, being a combat vet etc is a dime a dozen outside of Ft Bragg.


Soooooo RJ buys his 1st bike earlier this year. No previous experience. Not a problem. He took the motorcycle safety course (MSF ), and failed the written part of the exam at the DMV. Had to take it twice. After getting his bike, he put roughly 100 miles on it, puttering around his neighborhood, ridding around town and slowly taking it on roads with higher speed limits and heavier traffic until he was ready to ride to work during rush hour. Maybe a month of time invested in getting more comfortable being on the bike.  Any rate this is what he spent in cash.

Safety Course $125

Three helmets, $130

Jacket $120

Pants $80

Insurance $187 for the year

Bike $2500 includes taxes and registration. He bought a 2000 Suzki Intruder 1500 with a wind screen and hard saddle bags. Its a good looking bike, red and black with a lot of chrome. Its a good bike and will last a life time if he wants to keep it.

He is saving about $200 a month on gas not driving his F250 everywhere.

$3,142 for his 1st bike. The return? Well most importantly, he loves being on a bike and now its his main mode of transportation. He has gone from 0 experience to putting around 15k joy-filled miles on a bike. He’s done a few rides with my crew and takes it to the beach almost every weekend. He is having the time of his life exploring the rural South. Finally seeing what I see despite being from the South himself (city boy he is) Within his 1st 30 days of riding he pulled three girls. 2 six’s and a hard 7/ soft 8. This is a guy who in the past maybe pulled 6 girls year if he dropped his standards. His soft 8 is now his girl friend. RJ says this is the best looking girl he has banged since getting married right out of high-school and you know what? She’d be a lot of guys best looking bang. She is small, 5’3″ with blonde hair, blue eyes and store bought D cups. She has soft facial features, long pretty hair… sweet tempered and fun to be with. Blondie gets two Ton thumbs up. He’s keeping her. She had never been on a bike before and jumped at the chance to ride out of town for milkshakes. In fact that was what made her decide to see him after meeting at a local sports bar. ( I rode around on the back of his bike like a bitch so he could get some experience before their weekend)


So, in cost averaging, being on a bike has cost him a little over 1k per bang. Pretty damn high when you look at it that way. Now lets take a bigger picture view. RJ has a regular piece of ass he’s proud to show off for the 1st time in two decades. Better yet, she treats him well when their clothes are on. That’s winning in today’s SMP. Worth the money spent? Not for me to decide

14 thoughts on “Economics of motorcycles and alphaness

  1. BuenaVista

    As you know, I high-sided an 1100 Italian twin a few months ago. (This is the exact bike: . It’s a bit scraped up now, but the 90 degree V-twin format protects more of the bike than would be the case with a Harley.) It rests, now, on its side in the shop, on a dolly. (I also have a mid-eighties Honda 500 cc single, acquired for son #1.) This posting is reminding me why I bought my first motorcycle at 16 (Hodaka), rode all over the eastern 2/3 of the country at 19 (Honda 550F), got hooked on Moto Guzzis (the wrecked one is my fifth), and owned a Triumph Bonneville and Norton Commando when working offshore in Lousiana. And now I wonder if I will really dispense with this lifelong habit.

    I’ve never thought of a bike as a dating enhancement, though I suppose many of the women I know admire the riding even if they don’t wish to sit on the back. Truth be told, I’ve never had a good cruising bike, I’m more the cafe racer enthusiast, and the handling is all screwed up with 120 pounds on the back. When I was newly married, my girl and I commuted from southeastern Connecticut back to NYC on a Guzzi. Then we arrived, and had sex.

    Might have to keep the Guzzi.

    1. sfcton Post author

      Everything we do says something about us to the world. Raises our standing or lowers our standing. I doubt much of anything is viewed as neutral. But who knows?

      I’m to short and stubby to be comfy on cafe racers and the like. Norton Commando’ s are classics though.

      We use crash bars on cruisers to protect the bike and rider. Plus they give you somewhere to stretch your legs.

      Have you owned a cruiser? I reckon a girl on the back disrupts the balance less and I feel a cruiser is better balanced then a sports bike. Lower and more natural center of gravity. Plus cruiser fashion is more short and squat guy friendly.

      1. sfcton Post author

        Down here in the South, I can be on my bike almost year round, depending on the winter. We got a lot of ice and snow( for us) this winter last, but even then I was on my bike a few days every month this past year

        Guys up north have different gear. I worked with a German who had this suit with electric warmers in it. He could plug it into his BMW dual sport.

        If bikes are rare in your AO, I reckon owning one would have an even better impact on your SMP ranking. Still it’s a lot of fun for a 4k investment, even if it’s only spread out over 5 months out of the year.

      2. sfcton

        How does one quantify the intangibles of things like the inner strength a man gains when mastering dangerous things like motorcycles?

      3. BuenaVista

        Never owned a cruiser. You’re right about the discomfort/imbalance of having a human on the back of a cafe bike. I don’t really like having them there, they’re always sliding down and pushing me onto the tank. Polaris is making the new Indians 70 miles from my Iowa place though, that might be something to think about.

  2. Sumo

    Out of curiousity, what’s the weather like year-round where you boys live? I’ve toyed with the idea of getting a bike over the years, but up here in the Great Frozen Wasteland, you’re lucky if you get 4 or 5 months that you can get the bike on the road. Don’t much seem worth it to me.

    1. Sumo

      Bikes aren’t rare around here (mostly sport bikes, although my neighbor is a huge Harley guy), I’ve just never been able to justify, in my own mind, spending the cash for something I could only use for less than half the year. Also, working an LEO gig in a hospital meant I had to deal with multiple bike accident victims, which I admit is another factor in the “yeah……no” column.

      1. sfcton Post author


        The question “is it worth the money” really boils down to how much you enjoy riding. I’ve never known a man not to love riding once he gets past the 1st month or so. That seems to be the average learning curve where someone gets really comfortable with typical riding conditions. Ie traffic and curves. Do it on a budget like my buddy and it’s probably a pretty good return on investment and think about your marketing Professional chief, Experienced martial artist with LEO experience Bad ass biker…..

        Some strong mojo right there

        But being on a bike does add additional risks to your life.

    2. BuenaVista

      Well, I ride in the upper midwest, so (for me) it’s only a six-month season. I used to ride all year, so long as it was dry, but got tired of all the winter sand on the road after I stuffed another bike underneath a station wagon (started sliding, had to lay it out).

  3. sfcton Post author

    Man I have never laid a bike down. Dropped a few, but never laid one down. Knock on wood

    Personally, I’d kind to like to own one of each. It would be cool to own an Indian, but reality is a bitch. I want to get a bike with a side car, and I am real tempted to get rid of my FatBoy and pick up an 883. Man I love they way they look and its been a long time since I have owned a bar hopper. 3 bikes…..that will likely end my motorcycle collecting days.

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  5. Oscar C.

    Good post. Amazing that a guy like that has to put in a lot of effort into getting regular sex. Not only is he fit and cultured, he also has quite an adventurous past.

    I hear all the time that women love sex and are very horny and yadayadayada but to me it is akin to say that you are starving, but will only eat caviar or something expensive like that. Well, ok.

    I think this story also highlights how your lifestyle is key in your sexual success. Personally I am a guy that likes to read and talk about politics, history, etc. but girls simply don’t dig that. You can do what you really like in life and be happier that way, but don’t expect sex to happen as some in the manosphere imply. Sexually successful guys in my opinion are those who are content with themselves, but who also happen to enjoy the sort of outgoing/exciting activities girls like.

    1. SFC Ton Post author

      Thanks Oscar, and yes a man is selling his whole identity in the SMP. Girls will sniff out the one puzzle piece that does not quite fit and bail

      Also they are only that horny when the guy is new ie most alpha to her

      My next post is about the value of men… how the Ton Value System values men vs how women value men. I think it will tie in with these sort of posts


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