The Ton on the value of men

I am The Ton mother fucker! And I value men based on one factor alone.

Does he have https://tonsplace.wordpress.com/2017/04/18/game-dog-game-humility-and-who-to-trust-how-far-to-trust-him/

I value men based on their innate desire to cross the ring in order to destroy the other guy, his ability to ignore pain, exhaustion, fear and injury. Will he keep fighting even if he’s already dead on his feet? Would he rather die or be in jail then break faith with his brothers? That’s it. The complete value of a man. Will he fight when we fight? Will he lie to the cops and his old lady for the sake of his crew? Not for his own well being mind you but for his brothers. Does he got that shit when he looks you in the eye and says don’t worry brother, I got this shit?

Those are the kind of men to honor and call brother. Those are the kind of men to respect even when they are on the other end of your gun

Alpha? Beta? The Ton has 0 fucks to give about that shit. Can a man brawl? Does he fight hard even when hes getting monkey stomped? Does he ride hard, shot straight and always report the truth? Does he keep the faith with his crew? That is the sum total of a man’s value.

This is also on a sliding scale. We don’t owe these things to all men. Just the men in our crew. You owe the most to the man beside you. Next is the guys on your fireteam. Then your squad, your platoon etc etc. By the time that shit is spread out…. well you don’t owe that much to the guys in the same division vs you the guys on your gun crew.

Got it?

Well it don’t work that way with women. Women being inferior beings in all ways possible, cannot understand brotherhood or how to correctly value a man. Now they do get off on men who are good at being a man but it’s temporary. The more time she spends around him the more she will see he is less then perfect and when that equation tilts enough, the vag dries up and she will betray him in large ways and small

When a man is your brother he is your brother until he breaks the faith. Does he suck with a shotgun? Doesn’t fucking matter, he’s your brother and he keeps the faith. He can’t ride as hard as you? Doesn’t fucking matter because he keeps the faith. Does he drink to much and pass out on panic tables like it’s his full time job? Doesn’t matter as long as he keeps the faith with his crew. Does he annoy the shit out you because he talks to much? Doesn’t fucking matter because he keeps the faith with his brothers and you can trust him to the end.

Being good at being a man and keeping faith with his brothers is the complete value of a man according to the Ton Value System.

18 thoughts on “The Ton on the value of men

  1. Stephanie

    “When a man is your brother he is your brother until he breaks the faith. Does he suck with a shotgun? Doesn’t fucking matter, he’s your brother and he keeps the faith. He can’t ride as hard as you? Doesn’t fucking matter because he keeps the faith. Does he drink to much and pass out on panic tables like it’s his full time job? Doesn’t matter as long as he keeps the faith with his crew. Does he annoy the shit out you because he talks to much? Doesn’t fucking matter because he keeps the faith with his brothers and you can trust him to the end.”

    I see this in even just my husband’s group of male brothers (the close ones at least – not all for sure).

    And that paragraph describes how the men who fought at the Alamo were portrayed. Some of them had major “problems,” and not described as very “moral” or “good” men, but none of that mattered if they were all in it together and fighting the same fight. Reading their backstories, they were such admirable men in their own ways. But they each had flaws they must have overlooked in each other, because of some bond of brotherhood that women don’t really understand.

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  2. White Guy

    Ton this is all well and good but I have a more important question to ask you…

    Carb or Fuel Injection on a Sportster?
    (any benefit for looking for a 1200 vs 883?)

    As I start to get my feet (frame) under me, I’ve come to the conclusion that I need a bike in my life, the hell with what the world,wife,etc, think and I’m going with a Harley.
    So I’m planning now:
    1. Get my peck tendon reattached next week (tore it off November on the bench, man that shit hurt!) – 18 months of lifting heavy 3 days a week just to crash and burn.
    2.Rehab like a madman to get back under the bar in less than 6 months!
    2. Get my Scooter endorsement from the state.
    3. Find the right Harley to stick between my legs.
    4. Go for a ride.

    See any holes in my plan? I’ll take any suggestions.

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    1. SFC Ton Post author

      Congrats on the pec tear! We all get them when we push hard and fuck yeah does it suck ; )

      You will out grow a sportster super fast. Get a dyna or a softail. Or… Get a cheap metric bike for a year, make your mistakes on that then get a Harley. It’s a tough call because you want to balance a lot of aspects. Like cost vs the kind of riding you plan on doing. A dyna or softail will allow you to get around town and be ok’ish on longer rides. I would get an older dyna/ softail/ road king etc before a newer sportster because of the out growing and more versatile parts of the equation. Should help offset your price point some

      I like EFI bikes myself. Way less problems, way better performance. A used Harely with carbs will pretty much mean carb problems. And most mechanics arent as good with carbs as they claim.

      Man do I love reading shit like this! So once again , congrats and The Ton salutes you!

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      1. White Guy

        Thanks Ton, funny how I had just watched a video from Rippatoe (about a week before the injury) saying that if you train hard you will get injured…Shit, I thought, naw not me, I’m smarter than that! – damn ego!
        I do have a bit of a wild hair (I hate being like everyone else) so the reason I was thinking of getting a Sportster was to convert it to a ‘scrambler’/adventure type bike.
        like this:
        https://hugomoto.com/

        That’s good to know about the EFI bikes, I started my life with a 59 Chevy in high school so carbs don’t scare me at all (I’m a bit of grease monkey)

      2. SFC Ton Post author

        LOL I am not the biggest rippatoe fan around but I haven’t read him in years

        I would get an adventure bike then. I not sure how the conversion would work and I tend to think you would be happier with the real deal vs a Franken-bike

        I am having a Ural with a powered side car delivered. Think it is due in March. Can’t say I recommend them but damn do I think they are cool

  3. BuenaVista

    WG,

    Roland Sands Design, Storz Performance, Biltwell Inc. and others have some mighty cool street tracker Harley kits and mods.

    But I second Ton’s point that if you want an adventure bike, there are some good ones that are factory made. Don’t overlook Moto Guzzi.

    Ton the virtue of the URAL rig is I can ride it in snow: won’t tip over and has reverse!

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    1. SFC Ton Post author

      Wil do

      So far I am not really feeling the sidecar deal but I reckon the powered side car will change the math on that

      Plus I think the bad ass off road abilities and retro vibe will make up for the lack of horsepower

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      1. BuenaVista

        Yeah, I’m surprised it’s only 41 hp. Requires 91 octane, so it can’t be running very low compression pistons.

        The sidecar and aux drive makes it a viable all-year option for me. (Only -16 last night.)

      2. SFC Ton Post author

        Same here…. well mostly. I reckon I’ll be able to keep it upright as I fade away

        Dealership told me it should hit 90-95 and be able to curise at 70-75. We shall see. I’d like to run the Trans-America-trial on a Ural. That would prove it to be one hell of a bike

  4. Oscar C.

    A good standard for what matters in a man. You can always amuse yourself but sometimes you need somebody else to have your back.

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  5. Lost Patrol

    It’s a damn fine blog when you can talk motorcycles and unapologetic masculinity in the same thread. It’s amazing how many cycle pubs and blogs have gone fem-friendly. Money talks.

    @ White Guy

    Ton says – “You will out grow a sportster super fast.”

    Can confirm. Sportsters have the flat track mystique and can be a lot of fun, but they work best if you’re still in your 20s or 30s. Years ago I bought an 883. That thing must have been made for girls, but it did get my foot in the door with Harleys. A local gear head (this was Southern California where they have some real pros) made a 1200 out of it using the full bag of tricks to include Branch heads and all the too expensive performance parts of the time.

    The thing would really haul after that, but it wound up costing as much as just buying a dyna or softail from the beginning, (HD has dropped the dyna line this year), and either one would be a way better all day ride than the sporty. Especially if you are no longer a spring chicken.

    If you are looking adventure bikes I agree you should go with one made for that out of the box. Ton will not approve but I am riding a BMW F800GS. You can run it all day on the open road (factory claims 125mph top speed), then fly right onto dirt or gravel roads without even rolling off the throttle (get a steering damper just the same). It’s too heavy for real trail riding but it will run circles around a cobbled up adventure-sportster on the same roads.

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    1. SFC Ton Post author

      Thank you

      Most of the biker world is rubs or old fuckers bitching that the glory days are gone. Which I get but damn does it get boring

      Right tool for the job my man and lots of folks swear by those bwm ‘s. I do wonder if the hondas and trumiphs arent a better buy for the money.

      I earned my wrench cred converting 883’s and swear by them over the 1200’s. Dynas are the most under appreciate HD around

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  6. Lost Patrol

    “I do wonder if the hondas and trumiphs arent a better buy for the money.”

    Very probable. When I got the bmw about the only other people offering “adventure” bikes were honda and kawasaki both with those 650 thumpers. There are way more choices now. I would probably buy the honda these days, the triumphs seem like more or less the same machine for the same money as the beemer to me; but I haven’t ridden a triumph, just looked them over.

    I hope WG comes back to report what he decided on.

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  7. White Guy

    Gents, thanks for all the info, I really do appreciate it! I was at the dealer this weekend, (trying to get parts for my girls new TW200 (to us), what a fun little beast. Sat on a few scooters with lots of thoughts rolling through my head (I hate analysis paralysis!), but the 650 KLR had some real pull as well as the Yamaha SC950. The big thing is, I’m gonna get some cash here soon, and I’ve got MONTHS of recovery before I can even pull the trigger on a bike, so lots of time to think about it. — It’s a good thought though, start out on a little metric number and get my bike legs, then move onto what I want (I did this with a mountain bike a few years ago).

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  8. Lost Patrol

    It’s a winner. A man could do a lot worse. They have been building KLR 650s for 30 years, and that machine has been photographed transiting practically every place on the planet. Affordable too.

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